The task is to make tagline of product in Native level English. (hair care product). Based on the massage outline, submit 5 polished tagline for three line. We will pay $30(U.S) or 4000yen for this and the deadline is Noon of Dec.7th, in Japan time. Please apply by mail with your tagline work attached. Detail will be sent by e-mail. 商品のタグラインを考えていただくお仕事です。 日本語のアイディアを基に英語でタグラインを考えていただき、最良と思われる5案を提出頂きます。予算は5案で30ドルです。英語圏出身期限は12月7日の正午です。応募の際は、ご自身の書かれたコピーがわかる資料を添えてお送りください。依頼内容の詳細はメールにてお送りします。
...transform a unisex salon into a captivating, modern-themed space. The essential features you will manage include: 1. Hair Styling Stations: Allocate enough space for our hair stylists to perform their magic and create functional stations. 2. Nail Services Space: Design an inviting area for nail services that continues the salon's modern theme. 3. Makeup Application Station: Incorporate a makeup area that is as functional as it is visually appealing. 4. Manicure/Pedicure Area: An accessible and comfortable space for manicure and pedicure services is essential. For the reception area, the following elements are necessary: 1. Waiting Area: This area should be comfortable and provide clients with a positive first impression of the salon. 2. Rece...
I am looking for a creative and professional design for the business name: Sculpt and Glow. The colours can include white, black, dark green, peach and/or gold. I have no preference to font or size. I would like the name to present sophisticated, clear and classy. I am open to any creative suggestions and would appreciate a few options to choose from. Thank you!
I need a photo editor skilled in advanced retouching and manipulation :) Specifically, the tasks will include removing the blurred line at the top of the hairline (making the hairline appear less edited) and adding hair strands to this area (the hairline) to the images. The edited photos will be used for professional purposes, such as a professional website bio. Ideal applicants must have: - Proficiency in the use of image editing software for advanced retouching techniques - Strong attention to detail to ensure images meet professional standards - Ability to work to a deadline Please include examples of your previous work in your proposal :)
I'm in need of a photo editor to retouch some images for my website bio. The specific tasks I need to be completed include: - Removal of a stark, blurred line at the hairline - Adding hair strands back into the hairline The level of retouching required is quite detailed, including these specific tasks. I would like the photo editor to be able to make subtle, realistic changes to the images (realistic when even zoomed in). Ideal skills and experience for this job include: - Proficiency in photo editing software - Experience in detailed retouching - A keen eye for detail and aesthetics - Understanding of professional portfolio standards Please provide examples of your previous work and experience in this area when applying :)
I require a skilled photo editor to make modifications to a series of images from a recent event. The project specifics are: - Removal of visible bald spots - To give an impression of fuller hair The source material comprises of high-resolution photos, necessitating proficiency in working with such quality. The end result should be as natural as possible, avoiding an over-edited look and maintain the realism of the original photos. Experience in high-resolution image retouching, hair digital restructuring and a keen eye for maintaining authenticity are the most crucial skills necessary for this job.
...availability checks, scheduling and booking confirmation via WhatsApp to our staff. Their responses should organise them into yes and no groups. This will help us automate repetitive tasks and sharing of information to groups of people. - CRM Management: I am an agent to film ans supply extras for background. This requires searching for certain character features of our staff. For example brown hair, 5"4 female. of male 6'2 blonde. I then send a availability check to work on certain dates and if they agree i send their profile to the production for approval. The approved staff then get added to a whatsapp "mailing list to communicate with as a group but each person receives a private message. - Contact List Management: I also need the CRM to have a robust Contact...
I'm looking for an experienced illustrator to create an anime-style color portrait of an older woman. The character should be depicted as tired and grumpy, capturing the essence of this emotion with a touch of humor. Key requirements include: - Anime-style expertise: Applicants should have a strong portfolio demonstrating proficiency in this specific style. - Emotion port...engaging way is crucial. - Attention to detail: It's important that the final piece is rich in color and in line with the anime aesthetic. I own a wolf sanctuary. I’m just looking for a profile pic of me, tired, grumpy and holding the coffee cup that says "I will bite you". The cartoon photo of the dark haired woman is what I’m looking for. The blonde photo is a face swap of me. But I...
NEED A LOGO FOR A HAIR OR BEAUTY SALON CALLED: DELISHIS Beauty House I NEED YOU TO BE VERY CREATIVE I TRUST YOU TO WIN THIS CONTEST. ENJOY TO RECEIVE YOUR DESIGN THANK YOU GUYS. PLEASE DON'T JUST WRITE the name I NEED A CREATIVE DESIGN PS: NO PLAGIARISM FROM GOOGLE OR OTHER IMAGES OR LOGO THANK YOU
...creating a text-based logo with vibrant and energetic colors that communicates a professional image. Logo design is for a funky Hair Salon. Our store is called COLOUR CO and want the logo to reflect COLOUR CO in the design. Feel free to incorporate any images into the logo also if you think you can make it work * Why is this required? I need to uphold and convey a professional image to my target audience. * What will be your role? Your main job would be to identify the right color combination to fit with my business's "vibrant and energetic" profile, while focusing heavily on using text to depict a professional image. * What are the essential skills? - Proven experience in logo design, especially text-based. - An excellent...
...toxicology for a lay audience and the media. 2. Incorporating new information beyond the court-mandated disclosure for anticipated outcomes. An extensive MRO analysis has been executed to establish innocence, involving LC-MS-MS and GC-MS-MS tests on blood and urine promptly post-incident, arranged through and the bright side clinic collection site, yielding a negative result. Additionally, a hair follicle test was conducted on day 50, with all toxicology findings initially COMING FROM ME. The MRO deemed the police report nonsensical, asserting innocence by default due to the inability to withhold evidence and changing charges thrice. The initial accusation of fentanyl in the FOIA, followed by valium during the SOS trial, culminating in a charge for prescribed 5mg Adderall, unde...
...the back page. I've also included examples of the illustration style I am going for. Capturing the essence of black beauty, in our hair, various skin tones, and facial features is extremely important for these books. Please ONLY submit if you have created illustrations of young African American girls and boys, and you can provide a link to your previous work that matches this criteria. Ideally, the successful freelancer will also have: - Experience with cartoonish art styles, to appeal to the intended audience of 0-6-year-olds. - Experience creating the many variations of melanin the skin complexion of African Americans, as as familiarity with their hair textures and facial features. - Previous experience in children's book illustrations. - Understanding o...
Update: 18/04/2024 Firstly thank you everyone for all your submissions there are some really great creative entries, the top rated so far have 4 stars. For all f...submissions there are some really great creative entries, the top rated so far have 4 stars. For all future entries, please submit with white background. Thank You ----------------- Looking for a logo design, name of website is... Hair Care Water The store sells shower filters that purifies, filters and cleans water for hair, need a creative symbol and text to complement each other. There should also be a smaller Slogan should read... Purified Water for Healthier Hair and Scalp The image size should be 250 width, by 100 px and the background should be white. Please use your desig...
I'm seeking a talented graphic designer to create an eye-catching, elegant design for my brand . As it's a luxury cosmetic brand, I'm keen for the design to convey an air of both luxury and elegance. - The Ideal Candidate: A well-versed graphic designer with significant experience in the cosmetics industry, and has an eye for modern luxury design. Working knowledge of industry trends and familiarity with admired logos, such as La Roche-Posay, RhodeSkin is strongly desired. - Desired Feel: While I want the logo to be elegant and luxurious, it's also important that it retains some level of simplicity, similar to the La Roche-Posay logo. I'm not looking for anything overly intricate or complex. - Key Concepts: Luxury and Elegance. Our target...
We need Software for Beauty Salon, to manage: - Client appointments, - Income - Expenses - Client management - Sales reports - Users registers - Users management - SMS Marketing & Notification All the Software must be compatible to UI/UX (as attached), and it must also be deployed with a hosting. Note: We need the source code of the Software! We need 6 months support.
I am in need of a skilled photo editor who can effectively blend two images together for me and remove 2 people. Here are the specifics: - Combine the man in the suit and the older woman with grey hair. Remove the woman in the white dress and the woman in the beige dress. - Blending Style: I want a partial blend where the two images remain distinct in certain areas. It's important that the end result keeps elements from both photos obvious and easily visible. - Layout: The images should be oriented from left to right, side by side. - Lighting: Consistent lighting Proficiency in image manipulation software is a must. Demonstrated experience in photo blending will be highly beneficial. Preference will be given to freelancers who have an eye for composition and can suggest crea...
I am seeking a creative social media content creator to generate sales-driven posts for my Hair Oil Brand. The successful freelancer will have a flair for creating engaging, attention-grabbing content that will appeal to our target demographic of 18 to 35-year-olds. Details: • Social Media Platforms: Posts will be required for Facebook and Instagram. • Objective: The primary aim is to drive sales. Skills and Experience: • Proven experience creating engaging social media content. • A keen understanding of what drives sales on Facebook and Instagram. • An ability to tailor content to a target age demographic of 18 to 35. • Experience in the beauty industry would be advantageous. • Excellent command of English is a must. please add your work i...
I am actively seeking a Google Ads specialist who can assist in increasing my overall sales revenue. Key requirements for the venture involve: - Comprehensive knowledge of Google Ads. The expert should understand campaign setup, optimization, and continuous management. - Experience with physical goods advertisement. The expert should have a track record of successful ...physical goods advertisement. The expert should have a track record of successful Google Ad campaigns related to physical products targeting the general public. - Detailed sales-driven strategies. The expert should offer methods of tracking ad efficiency and giving feedback on potential improvements for ad campaigns to drive increased sales figures. Over al all we need is increment in sales on website through g...
Business Name: 785 Salon I'm looking for a professional and creative graphic designer to create a logo in a minimalist style for my business. The final design should be clean, sleek, and able to communicate my business values efficiently. Business Name: 785 Salon Key Requirements: - Develop a high-quality, minimalist logo - Use earth tones for the color palette - Incorporate the company initials in a creative and appealing manner The ideal freelancer for this job will have a strong portfolio of minimalist designs and a keen eye for modern aesthetics and color matching. Critical thinking and problem-solving capabilities, coupled with excellent communication and interpretation of client style preferences, will be highly advantageous for this project. I n...
...Primary focus on cutting hair. Committed to delivering the best service. Known for the crispest cuts. Colors: Preferred: Black, Gray, White (monochrome palette preferred for a sleek, professional look). Disliked: Purple, Green, Yellow, Orange, and Pink (avoid these colors to maintain brand consistency). Inspirational Links and Liked Branding: Preferred Imagery/Icons: Incorporate a "Brutus Chopper rim" to symbolize strength and uniqueness. Include a stylized clipper to directly connect to the hair-cutting service. Elements that represent Texas, which could include Lone Star motifs, rustic imagery, or similar cultural icons to evoke local pride. Style and Feel: Desired Style: Trendy yet loud (aim to stand out with a bold, clear identity that captures attention)...
...my products for Amazon. The pictures need to stand out and comply with Amazon's guidelines for product images. We currently sell 4 colours - Purple, Pink, Yellow & Blue, so we need 4 edited pictures to Amazon standard with the word Silicone Hair Beads on each picture Key Requirements: - Background Removal: The images need to have the background professionally removed. - Colour Enhancement: The colours need to be brightened and made more appealing. - Product Retouching: I require slight retouching to ensure the products are looking their best. The project involves editing less than 10 images. The ideal freelancer will have experience in image editing and be familiar with Amazon's image guidelines. The ability to enhance product images while keeping them real...
I'm reaching out to request a modification in the visualisation of a scene involving a mirror. Our goal is to create a new rendition that deviates significantly from reality while preserving certain key elements. We are seeking to place the mirror within a more modernized salon setting, featuring sleek lines, minimalist design elements, and cutting-edge technology. The focus is on crafting an ambiance that feels futuristic and inviting, incorporating elements like smart lighting, integrated digital displays, and innovative furniture pieces. It's essential to maintain the mirror's original shape and its black frame, ensuring continuity with the existing aesthetic. Despite the transformation, these fundamental features must remain unchanged to preserve the esse...
I need two lifelike, high-poly 3D models of a man and a woman. The models should be partially rigged for animation, with attention to: - Facial expressions Use a base model with all pre-built animation features as a foundation for all derived models. Preserve the animation features and the mesh itself. Add to derived 3D models the realistic textures for skin, eyes, hair etc. The textures and other needed components could be used out of the 3d library Degirum provided
Logo Design for [new Hair Club DINAN] Project Summary: Easy to read and ligible We are looking for a talented graphic designer to create a unique and eye-catching logo for our new Hair Style business. The logo should have a icon of a girl but it should look like a hair icon that will effectively represent our brand and make a lasting impression on our target audience. Requirements: 1. Original and creative logo design that reflects the nature of our business. 2. Professional and modern look and feel. 3. Versatility to be used across different mediums (website, social media, print materials, etc.). 4. High-quality and scalable vector files (AI, EPS, PDF). Font & Color Guideline: - Font Name: Niconne & ABeeZee - Color Code: Prima...
I'd like to hire a 3D artist to do an anime head. I just need the head. No need hair. I need it done in Zbrush with polypaint. I need it done quickly. It should take less than an hour for an experienced artist. I need it done quickly. I already have the reference for the face. I'm in rush, so quick work is what I'm after. Thank you!
I am in need of an experienced signage designer to create modern, minimalist A-frame signs for my premium salon and retail space. Key Responsibilities: - Create an A-frame sign that will attract customers to our salon - Must reflect a modern and minimalist aesthetic that aligns with our brand's identity - Should include our salon's name and logo, our contact details, as well as the logos of the brands that we stock in our retail store Ideal candidate has: - Prior experience in designing attractive A-frame signage - An understanding of modern and minimalist design trends - The ability to visually communicate our salon's offerings effectively and elegantly to potential customers.
--- **Project Description: Creating 3D Characters for Spudster Brand** **Overview:** We are seeking a talented 3D artist to bring to life the characters of the Spudster family for our brand. The Spudster family consists of five unique potato characters, each with their own personality and charm. These characters will serve as the face of our brand and will be used in various marketing materials, including social media, packaging, and promotional videos. **Character Descriptions:** 1. **Wise Potato:** - Description: Wise Potato is the patriarch of the Spudster family. He is a distinguished potato with a sage-like demeanor and a twinkle in his eye. Wise Potato is the visionary behind Spudster and is known for his creativity and innovative spirit. - Guide for the Artist: Wise...
I have a character that I'd like to turn into an NFT collection, and I need a Blender designer to create 80 unique and visually appealing threats for this character. Ke...unique and visually appealing threats for this character. Key Deliverables: - 80 different threats based on various categories like Clothing items, Accessories, Eyes, Mouth, Gesture, Skin, Background, Hair color, Style, Rarity Specific Requirements: - Clothing items: Hats, Shirts, Pants, Shoes, Dresses, Jackets - Accessories: Glasses, Necklaces, Bracelets, Earrings, Hats, Belts, etc Ideal Candidate Skills: - Proficient in Blender or a similar 3D modeling software - Experience in character design - Ability to create visually appealing and unique designs - Understanding of NFT market and design...
...seeking a talented graphic designer to create a captivating, cartoon-style design for my travel business' branding initiative. The final product should reflect an image where two black girls (please look at the pictures attached to see how we look) are each seated on the wing of a plane, one of us saying Where To Next Sis? to the other with full intensity. Please make sure we look happy and we want braids in our hair. The project specifics are as follows: 1. Purpose: The graphic will be used mainly for branding. 2. Style: The design must be cartoonish and vibrant to reflect the fun aspect of travel. 3. Color: The graphic should be created in full color to create a visually appealing image. The ideal freelancer for this project should have: &bull...
I'm seeking an experienced Flutter developer to work on an existing Salon Booking App for the Android platform. The project involves: - Adapting the existing source code - Implementing new features if necessary - Ensuring the app's compatibility with Android devices Please note, the source code is already available. The main focus will be on optimization, bug fixing, and ensuring the app is aligned with the latest guidelines of the Android platform. Deliverables: - A fully functional and optimized Salon Booking App - Bug-free and tested code - Documentation for any new features or modifications made Ideal Skills: - Experienced with Flutter - Previous experience with Salon or Booking Apps - Proficient in Android development - Strong problem-solving ...
I am seeking a Google ads expert to enhance the sales of my cosmetic products targeted at adults. The focus is not just increasing web traffic or generating leads, but primarily boosting online sales. Your expertise in the following areas will be key: • Google Ads Management for E-commerce • Sales-focused ad campaign design and execution • Marketing to adult target audiences, specifically for cosmetics • Conversion Optimization Please, consider this project only if you have a proven track record of results-oriented, revenue-driving Google Ads campaigns.
...few great website designers and website developers to customize hair extensions and beauty, and fashion websites for our partners. We build 7-10 websites per week. This is a fast paced environment and we have a full team that you will need to work with from Mon-Fri (Saturday optional) . Must have experience creating hair extension, or beauty websites. You must have a great eye for design, must be friendly and have a good personality. We provide all tools. We are looking for someone to start as soon as possible. Our current developers create a “partner” website within 24 hours. Our designers create a website homepage mock up within 12 hours. Website Developer -$50 - $80 per website Website D...
Bjr, Je viens de déménager dans mon nouvel appartement et souhaiterais pouvoir obtenir un design de mon salon couloir et bureau
...established business. My range of products includes women's foundation, skincare, and hair products. With an inventory of 50-100 items, categorisation into distinctive collections is crucial for a seamless shopping experience. The perfect freelancer for this job would have extensive experience in creating and managing Shopify stores, along with a good understanding of the beauty and skincare industry. Additionally, SEO-optimization skills could be a significant plus. Key Features Required: - Customer Review System - Product Recommendation Engine - Live Chat Support - Collection and categorisation of products If you have a knack for visually appealing store layouts and user-friendly interface design, your expertise is what I need. The ultimate goal is to create ...
I am looking for a talented videographer or video production team to help me create a live-action product video with the ultimate goal of building brand awareness among the general public. Key Requirements: - The video should be live-action. - It should be engaging and compelling, capturing the essence of the product and the brand. - The target audience is the general public, so it should be understandable and appealing to a wide range of viewers. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Previous experience in creating brand-building video content. - Proficiency in live-action video production and editing. - Ability to tell a story through visuals and engage the audience. If you have a strong portfolio in creating impactful brand videos, with a focus on live-action content, I would love to hear ...
Logo Design for hair salon. Company colors either black and white. Or black white and gold depending on what looks better on the logo
Logo Design for hair salon. Company colors either black and white. Or black white and gold depending on what looks better on the logo
dental dermal care its a dental ,hair,skin,laser clinic where all kinds of aesthetic treatments done i want some one to design my clinicnlogo and website as soon as possible
...expert who can create a vintage or retro-inspired product page for a single item in my store. The page needs to be detailed and engaging. sample site : second
I am seeking a qualified fashion designer with a focus on women's wear, especially in designing accessories such as scrunchies and hair ties. Ideally, the person should have: - Above all else, the ability to sew. - Expertise in current women's fashion trends - Strong knowledge on designing fashion accessories, specifically scrunchies and hair ties - Ability to create unique, innovative designs keeping in mind functionality and comfort This project requires close collaboration, keen attention to detail and good understanding of fashion fabrics. Experience in women's hair products is a plus.
I'm in need of a professional to edit a picture for professional use. The task entails: - Removing the people in the picture, but with special attention to preserve appearances, specifically a male's hair that slightly blends with the background. - The level of editing preferred for this task is minimal but noticeable, ensuring the integrity and authenticity of the photo is maintained. - If possible, complete removal of the background. Ideal freelancer should have: - Proficient photo editing skills - Ability to balance and blend colors accurately - Experience in person removal without distorting key characteristics - Minimalist editing techniques to maintain photo authenticity - Skill to convincingly remove or create backgrounds.
hi all, I need someone to create a classified ad website, with an admin dashboard, user login and more. The functions are quite basic and simple, as the website should have similar functions (but not identical) to the site: fgirl.ch. I need my own site with its own features. Here are more details about what is needed: 1. Admin dashboard: I absolutely need an admin dashboard from where I’ll be able to edit the site (post new pages, add / remove ads, add / remove users, do SEO…). 2. Payment method: We need to implement a payment method, I will share the details later about which processor to integrate. 3. SEO: I need SEO on all pages, like there is on WordPress with the Yoast plugin (focus keyphrase, Google Preview, SEO title, slug…). 4. Multiple langua...
I'm looking for a proficient marketing executive who can skillfully promote my premium red onion hair oil on social media platforms. I require an individual who can expertly tap into both male and female demographics to create a significant impact. Here's what I require: - Experience managing and promoting products on Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube. - Polished capabilities in designing strategies and implementing them effectively. - Strong grasp on market trends and ability to appeal to both genders. - Creativity in engaging potential customers and promoting brand recognition. Experience in the beauty product segment would be an added advantage, but not a dealbreaker. Payout will be commision based based on orders executed
Hey guys, We have challenge managing customer conversations across our various platforms for our Hair salon: - Instagram - eBay Classifieds - Facebook - WhatsApp - Our website Conversation topics: Common Customer's questions: - Requesting advice on their hairstyle - Inquiring about the prices of hairstyles - Requesting appointments Information required from customers: Common question from us to customers - Hair length - Hair strand color - Whether the hair strand is provided by the customer or not Our objective is to automate interactions with customers to the fullest extent possible using AI. Please let me know if you can help and what your strategy will be. Cheers, Joelka
I'm in need...need of a skilled content creator to develop engaging video ads and posts for my hair oil business. Key Aspects: - **Platforms**: The content will be for Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube. - **Primary Goal**: The main objective of the video content will be to increase brand awareness. - **Content Style**: I'm looking for content that promotes my brand in a creative, engaging way. The ideal freelancer for this project should have experience in creating video content for social media. Knowledge and understanding of the beauty industry, particularly hair care, would be an added advantage. Your creativity and ability to tailor content for different platforms will be essential in ensuring the success of this project. Prior experience with b...
I'm seeking a talented, creative individual to create engaging live-action Instagram reels to promote my hair, skin, and nail services. The primary aim is boosting product/service promotion. Job Responsibilities/Requirements: - Develop high-quality, engaging live-action Instagram reels. - Knowledge and experience in beauty industry branding is appreciated. - Must be innovative, keeping up with Instagram reels trends. - Bring forward ideas that'll promote my services effectively. Ideal Skills: - Proven experience in creating Instagram reels content. - Strong understanding of Instagram's algorithms and trends. - Knowledge in beauty and personal care sector. This project demands creativity, trend knowledge, and a strong understanding of Instagram's fun...
I'm looking for a talented logo designer who can create a sleek and minimalistic logo for my organization Walk 9 With Us (W9WU). This logo will be used across various platforms including the website, print materials, and merchandise. Key Elements: - The logo should feature the W9WU acronym. - It should incorporate two female golfers with golf bags in a simplistic way. - One of the female golfers should have a hat and long hair, while the other should have a long ponytail. Color Scheme: - The logo should primarily use black and white colors. Ideal Skills and Experience: - Prior experience in creating minimalistic and sleek logos. - Proficiency in incorporating complex concepts into simple, easily recognizable designs. - A portfolio that showcases previous logo designs ...
I require a proficient website builder with GoDaddy to create an engaging, professional website that showcases my hair growth capsule bottle. This website is intended to enhance my brand's credibility in the market and targets both, men and women, who are potential users of the product. Features Required: - Display of clinical trial results. Ideal Skills/Experience: - Experienced in website design with a solid portfolio of e-commerce sites, particularly in health and wellness or cosmetic sectors. - Experience in building sites with a focus on brand credibility enhancement. - Strong understanding of user-interface and user-experience design. The website should be user-oriented, visually appealing, and simple to navigate,...
...an email marketing list that I can use to promote my hair products. Key Requirements: - Email List Creation: I'm looking for an experienced freelancer who can gather a comprehensive list of email addresses of hair salons in the UK. - Data Accuracy: It's crucial that the email list is accurate and up-to-date to ensure the effectiveness of the marketing campaigns. Ideal Skills: - Strong Research Skills: The freelancer should be adept at conducting in-depth research to identify and compile a list of relevant email addresses. - Attention to Detail: Given the importance of data accuracy, the freelancer should possess a keen eye for detail to ensure that the email list is error-free. - Understanding of Email Marketing: Although this project is focused on li...
...an email marketing list that I can use to promote my hair products. Key Requirements: - Email List Creation: I'm looking for an experienced freelancer who can gather a comprehensive list of email addresses of hair salons in the UK. - Data Accuracy: It's crucial that the email list is accurate and up-to-date to ensure the effectiveness of the marketing campaigns. Ideal Skills: - Strong Research Skills: The freelancer should be adept at conducting in-depth research to identify and compile a list of relevant email addresses. - Attention to Detail: Given the importance of data accuracy, the freelancer should possess a keen eye for detail to ensure that the email list is error-free. - Understanding of Email Marketing: Although this project is focused on li...
